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'Brit Boys Suck' - Ambassador's Daughter
BBC News Online, by Unattributed

Original Article

Posted By:quidnunc, 8/10/00 3:48:28 PM

Despite their "sexy" accents, British boys just do not make the grade compared with their American counterparts. That is the considered verdict of Mary-Catherine Lader, the 15-year-old daughter of the US ambassador to London. Miss Lader made her opinions known in an article which appeared in Tatler magazine. She said that in the three years she has been in London she has come to the conclusion "British boys really suck". Despite their "sexy" accent, she has been unimpressed by boring, scrawny lads since she arrived from South Carolina. "I'm tempted to give up on relationships with British boys," she wrote in Tatler magazine. Miss Lader said: "At first I gave all the boys who had underwhelmed me the benefit of the doubt but, after three years, I've finally distinguished what it is - that American guys have it and Brits don't.

Comments:

Reply 1 - Posted by: harley, 8/10/00 3:50:40 PM

Ouch.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Kitten, 8/10/00 3:50:49 PM

Oh, when I was at Oxford as an exchange student we all used to make fun of the pasty-skinned concave-chested brit boys too. but every girl i know who got a brit boy got a marvellous prize so i don't know about this doltish 15-year old's opinion. she should have kept her mouth shut till dad was out of office. Maybe the brit boys will get equal time to reply about yank girls?


Reply 3 - Posted by: Lest We Forget, 8/10/00 3:56:00 PM

Sounds like this Ambassadors daughter is a mental giant, it only took 3 years of experimentation.......

Wonder what she looks like.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Consort, 8/10/00 3:59:50 PM

The Ambassador's next assignment will be -- Antarctica.


Reply 5 - Posted by: GTex, 8/10/00 4:17:01 PM

She started her "experiment" at 12??

And by the ripe old age of 15, she has it all figured out. What does she have to compare it to?


Reply 6 - Posted by: e-Bev, 8/10/00 4:23:01 PM

well, put THAT lady at the negotiations table! :P


Reply 7 - Posted by: LittleKev, 8/10/00 4:30:02 PM

It's funny that the author of this article gets so snitty about what a 15 year old girl has to say.


Reply 8 - Posted by: Marcellus, 8/10/00 4:33:35 PM

Where's jj?


Reply 9 - Posted by: Landshark, 8/10/00 4:35:54 PM

British boys suck? Well, truth be told, I have heard some pretty scary stories about those public school types they have over there...

LOL


Reply 10 - Posted by: valleystorm, 8/10/00 4:45:45 PM

The kid probably got fed up with the moronic American-bashing and hit back.


Reply 11 - Posted by: AltaD, 8/10/00 4:49:02 PM

Her father okayed this article? So much for diplomacy.


Reply 12 - Posted by: carroll, 8/10/00 4:55:31 PM

Andy Jackson and his Soldiers made British rear ends suck air in the War of 1812! Even Sam Houston had a hand in that melee.


Reply 13 - Posted by: Lmihomes, 8/10/00 5:06:40 PM

I understand Willie has offered Mary-Catherine a job as Oval Office Attendant.

Her Daddy, a lifelong Democrat, is reported to be "so proud."


Reply 14 - Posted by: OldSchool, 8/10/00 5:07:29 PM

Surely no reasonable person would deny that this State Department is in shambles. Madeline Albright shouldn't be allowed on the premises much less near the office that's been held by the likes of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Foster Dulles, Henry Kissinger, George Schultz and James Baker. She's a disgrace and an embarrassment to the country.


Reply 15 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 5:34:39 PM

Excellent article! And the author is quite right about my accent.


Reply 16 - Posted by: CuteSocks, 8/10/00 5:52:39 PM

The American boys all say she sucks!


Reply 17 - Posted by: liberalchick, 8/10/00 6:01:56 PM

You all suck !!!


Reply 18 - Posted by: aluciannewidow, 8/10/00 6:05:59 PM

Our president will meet this sweet thing at the Airport with a sign, "I feel your pain".


Reply 19 - Posted by: MHGinTN, 8/10/00 6:10:38 PM

JJ, you might want to find out who appointed this ambassador!... If a clinton/gore appointee, the bigotry is normal; if not a clinton/gore appointee, the remarks are outrageous and indefensible.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Stars-stripes, 8/10/00 6:31:54 PM

After that remark, it is evident this kid will never grow up to be an Ambassador like Dad.


Reply 21 - Posted by: jaxomlotus, 8/10/00 6:35:30 PM

This article is probably just another joke post by TheSatyr.com


Reply 22 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 6:38:03 PM

Jax, the old boy who posted this hilarious story is probably just another joke!


Reply 23 - Posted by: quidnunc, 8/10/00 6:40:49 PM

To: jaxomlotus

Follow the link.

This is directly from the web site of the mighty Beeb.


Reply 24 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 6:42:46 PM

Quidnunc, that is rather unlike you - to find anything mighty about a foreign country. You are learning...at last.

Who says you can't teach an old bigot new tricks?


Reply 25 - Posted by: Chicken Boner, 8/10/00 6:49:37 PM

Landshark:
Regarding your reply #9, from what I've heard, its the "sucking" that takes place in the private English boys schools that should really concern you.


Reply 26 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 6:51:38 PM

Boner, are you saying you were educated in the UK?


Reply 27 - Posted by: quidnunc, 8/10/00 6:52:07 PM

Ah yes, the "mighty" Beeb that sees fit to Brit-snit up a storm about an article written by a 15-year-old girl.


Reply 28 - Posted by: Blitzen, 8/10/00 6:56:55 PM

The girl knows what she is talking about. There is a great vacuum in the British Isles!
Eh! JJ


Reply 29 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 6:58:29 PM

Ja, Blitzen. Quidnunc would claim the vacuum is somewhere between my ears. How are you, by the way?


Reply 30 - Posted by: Blitzen, 8/10/00 7:13:28 PM

Very well, JJ, and I hope you are doing well also. No hangovers from all that Old Bushmills Irish whiskey?


Reply 31 - Posted by: 6435 P, 8/10/00 7:18:29 PM

What a hussy!!!!! and at 15?


Reply 32 - Posted by: Chicken Boner, 8/10/00 7:21:11 PM

jj:
So, yer fond of the Bushmill's, eh? Well, last night I got turned on to a truly abysmal drink, consumed by an (overweight) bartender friend of mine, non-stop, whilst working. shot and a half of Bailey's Irish Creme, shot of Bushmill's, and coffee. Ouch. If she'd move over to straight Bushmills or better yet black coffee, she might just recover her girlish figure.


Reply 33 - Posted by: Blitzen, 8/10/00 7:28:21 PM

Sounds delicious, JJ.


Reply 34 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 7:34:58 PM

Sorry to break off their chaps. I was working out a plan for world domination. Anyone interested can email me.


Reply 35 - Posted by: Hamlet, 8/10/00 7:38:09 PM

Well, it looks like this classless girl is proof that that Clinton's legacy will continue with her ilk. How about keeping your yap shut, while your a guest in another country.


Reply 36 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 7:40:43 PM

I would agree with you, Hamlet. But then people would say I should practise what I preach. And no Yank's gonna switch me off!!!


Reply 37 - Posted by: Hazymac, 8/10/00 7:46:16 PM

They just don't make 'em like they used to. In England or over here.


Reply 38 - Posted by: hennypenny, 8/10/00 7:46:45 PM

sounds like a girl that knows what she is talking about...noticed some one on the thread called her a bigot for pointing out the faults of brits ...confused ?..why is that a bigot?...if she is wrong ..then she is wrong...but a bigot??my..my..my..

to me the total british culture looks as though the whole damn Island is populated with boys from the Esquire and Vanity Fair clothing ads


Reply 39 - Posted by: DrStrangelove, 8/10/00 8:22:29 PM

I didn't know Brittany Spears had such distinguished family!


Reply 40 - Posted by: quidmumc, 8/10/00 8:25:57 PM

my evil twin brother will have two of the weedy, pasty ones please.


Reply 41 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 8:26:24 PM

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Lieberman's not that innocent at all!!!


Reply 42 - Posted by: quidmumc, 8/10/00 8:28:55 PM

Hey BOY! Is that photo yours?? When did you take it BOY?


Reply 43 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 8:37:47 PM

Quidmumc, you are an improvement on your miserable brother Quidnunc. CLICK HERE NOW for the real story.


Reply 44 - Posted by: Sunshine Warrior, 8/10/00 8:46:10 PM

jj posts
"I was working out a plan for world domination"

have you ever met these two, maybe they can use a third plotter....

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PINKY and the BRAIN

Reply 45 - Posted by: Mr. Peabody, 8/10/00 8:47:29 PM

Hiya Sunny. Haven't seen you for a while.


Reply 46 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/10/00 8:48:02 PM

Sunny, I love those two! Click above your post to fool for the Old Trap Door trick yet again.


Reply 47 - Posted by: Sunshine Warrior, 8/10/00 9:24:24 PM

hey peabody, I think you SAW me

you must've had a problem like this guy!

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g'day

Reply 48 - Posted by: Mr. Peabody, 8/10/00 9:33:57 PM

Sunny,

E-mail me please.


Reply 49 - Posted by: XP38, 8/10/00 10:10:52 PM

This is what happens when your guns get confiscated.


Reply 50 - Posted by: Sunshine Warrior, 8/10/00 10:46:56 PM

mr peabody
just ask the Brit, I am just wary now,
had been so upset...
am still disappointed
and was absolutely clueless so
thats why I kept posting to you and was wondering what was wrong....

I couldn't have guessed any of it in my wildest imagination, so it took 10-20 emails to finally explain it to me! duh!

about the ambassador's daughter, she sounds like she has a REAL future in POLITICS!


Reply 51 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/11/00 1:25:21 AM

Sunny, you have always been clueless! But you are loved by one British poster. Peabers you are too...kinda.


Reply 52 - Posted by: LComStaff, 8/11/00 2:04:09 AM

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Reply 53 - Posted by: DrStrangelove, 8/11/00 2:16:55 AM

This site seems to be very paranoid (not just the posters) and highly regulated.

When I last visited the site (10 or so months ago with a different handle that I have forgotten) there was none of this stuff going on.... or maybe I forgot that too!

Maybe I'm remembering another site that offers free and unfettered debate on issues political and topical.

If I have come to the wrong site could someone suggest what its URL might be.

It was a conservative news based forum run by a syndicated columnist, any ideas?


Reply 54 - Posted by: jjbrouwer, 8/11/00 2:17:52 AM

Staff, you will not listen but this is the law as it stands...

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The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

A former poster (note the use of the word former) informed you of this yesterday and you merely closed the thread.

If you bother to reply to this please switch the bold off. It does not give you more authority.

Thread closed?


Reply 55 - Posted by: quidnunc, 8/11/00 2:23:43 AM

Isn't it a whole lot easier just to go along with the program?

In the final analysis you're never going to win an argument with the person who has control of the banning button.


Reply 56 - Posted by: quidmumc, 8/11/00 2:31:16 AM

evil twin brother, shouldn't you be hanging out in the cemetary at this time of night?


Reply 57 - Posted by: DrStrangelove, 8/11/00 2:35:00 AM

J,

You don't know who I am but I know you through a fellow hack and I agree totally!

The conventions are rather established in copyright law and there is next to zero chance of this changing in the future.

Without the law as it stands the world would be reduced to one without news, criticism or debate i.e. totalitarianism

I am in shock that Luci is ignorant of the strength of the copyright law and the fact that it has been thoroughly tested.

In response to the post stating that Luci would win a case but she could be bankrupted in the process is equally ignorant. Any judge would immediately award costs to Luci.

I hope that this web site improves in the future. I will check back in a few months to see if it has recovered from this temporary lapse.

By the way I studied Journalism at a respected school and was well versed in Media Law and Regulation, as I'm sure the ephemeral JJ is.

GoodBye and Goodluck


Reply 58 - Posted by: LComStaff, 8/11/00 2:48:39 AM

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Look at the top of the page. Do you see those advertisements? Lucianne.com is not a nonprofit site. We are a commercial site.

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We have warned you that posting copyrighted information can get us sued for copyright violation and we have given you this link so that you can see that we are not just being paranoid about this.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: quidnunc, 8/11/00 2:50:50 AM

Brit snit to Brit sulk to Brit whinge to Brit rage to Brit funk.

Darned near the whole gamut has been run here tonight on L.com


Reply 60 - Posted by: Mr. Peabody, 8/11/00 2:53:24 AM

Lay off the booze quidnunc.


Reply 61 - Posted by: Hypocrite Mufti, 8/11/00 2:56:13 AM

Verily,
I have been emailed by an infidel!

he says

"My posting privileges appear to have been removed for daring to disagree with
your inaccurate assessment of copyright law.

I would not mind but an evil poster called Quidnunc has been allowed the last
word. Is he a relative???

I feel genuinely sad that so many decent people no longer wish to be
associated with your site. For you to describe Pinfold's thread as "mindless"
was mindless in itself. He is easily the most intelligent person you or I
have ever nearly come across.

All I can say, My Dear, is read all about it!

PS - I have always suspected it was you who posted that remark about Le Carre
being Australian. Can you prove otherwise?"

Mufti says,

Verily,
you expect too much freedom and yes there is such thing as too much. There should be a limit on freedoms! (like in Afghanistan!)


Reply 62 - Posted by: Mr. Peabody, 8/11/00 2:57:58 AM

I have been asked to post the following:

Subj: Too bad, Lucy
Date: 8/10/00 10:35:13 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Truebrit2000
To: LucianneG

My posting privileges appear to have been removed for daring to disagree with
your inaccurate assessment of copyright law.

I would not mind but an evil poster called Quidnunc has been allowed the last
word. Is he a relative???

I feel genuinely sad that so many decent people no longer wish to be
associated with your site. For you to describe Pinfold's thread as "mindless"
was mindless in itself. He is easily the most intelligent person you or I
have ever nearly come across.

All I can say, My Dear, is read all about it!

PS - I have always suspected it was you who posted that remark about Le Carre
being Australian. Can you prove otherwise?


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